Messages posted by: mike watson

reaper shane isnt overated. and in that what has cotto done to deserve his credit?

cotto's only advantages is being younger and being a tough son of a gun.

cotto's main weapon is to slug it out but to wait till the later rounds where he drowns his opponants in the deep water of the 8 to 12 rounds where his body work and abilty to stay there for 12 round of punishment and let the other guy fall apart.

mosley is very similar in that his body work and belief on beating the guy by winning the war of attrition then coming back stronger than ever.

but the reason why i think MOSLEY will take this is becuase his combo's, his vetrancy and his tougher defence and his abilty to box and move and slug it out when it comes down to it.

cotto as good as he is is SO open to hit judah landed 5 uppercuts on him in the first 3 rounds!!!! you shouldnt be being hit by uppercuts from judah that many timea and he was hurt becuase of it and low blowed to get himself out of this situation. i dont hate on lwo blows and stuff like that. if you watch duran - moore you see how he thumbs moore early on and makes his right eye swell...i dont mind cheating isnt cheating unless your caught by the ref it shows survival instinct. anyways he he broke zab judah after 6 rounds of on and off rounds.

thing is he can be hurt he can be moved he can get rocked. he has been knocked down against light punchers and did a dance against corley.
he has a incredibly poreus defence which has as many holes as swiss cheese. and to think that a boxer puncher who's handspeed and abilty to take a punch and burning desire for fighting.

cotto really is the forrest gump of boxing does everything wrong but just seems to keep winning

but i think that mosley is past it...he actually passed it ever since he went up to light middlewieght so at welter it will be interesting

Unstoppable wrote:
Nope just toes and fingers

yeah totally need thos man

Oscar wrote:Well he is getting older and his metabolism is slowing down, what do ya expect? I wouldn't call him obese though just a bit tubby

look at vargas....wait a sec he is 29

when your a heavywieght you bulk up look at toney or rahman or moorer. when you get older you lose your metabolism and fat will creap around the corner.

Anonymous wrote:

um actually tyson is 5'11

sterlihalla wrote:John ruiz rofl seems like u aint fought my new style yet lol and ur style is something like james its about countering and when you try to be offensive you dont do well thats all i was saying im not picking on ur style lol ive beat u a few times but it does annoy me when you jus stand there doing nothin intil i throw something lol if i didnt get annoyed as much with it i think i wud win more.
My point is james toney was ok in offense too when he wanted it and he had great defense which is gd for a counter puncher.
Sugar ray cud not knock out james toney because of his defense but he wud ud him because of his sick combos and hand speed.

ray's defence was far inferiore to james's defence rays dfence wasa to move and didge look how he got tagged by hearns in the rematch and terry norris...he lost his abilty to dodge and move was limted for being heavier and older

rays defence wasnt anyhign to sneaze at

um im just wondering in sd how do you get up...? becuase we havnt seen the animation for boxers to get up. just a thought

BoXa wrote:toney is so overrated in my opinion. even as a middle..

ray would tear him up, way too fast

aww dont pick on james he was a great counterpuncher an d had the abilty ot be the best he was just lathargic which slowed him down and just he didnt let his hands go unless he really wanted to ...at supermiddlewieght i think james was at his peak form. his destruction of barkley was horrendous 3 hit combo's for the 1st 3 rounds then 5 hit combo's just for the hell of it.

at any wieght he is dangerous but ray leonard (who i feel is massively overated) was a great welter and peaked rather early but he just got slower and slower and his old techniques wernt working.

at super middlewieght toney would beat him up double time becuase of ray's slower moves and combo's that wouldnt work for his frame i think toney would win by ud easy. but at middlewieght topney was anorexic he just dsidnt eat jus to make wieght thats not right man when a guy who is a natural 180-190 pounder is sweating himself down to middlewieght is unbefuckinleivable

sterlihalla wrote:Im picking ray on this one i love toneys defence and counter ability but ray way to quick for him and throws much more.

why didnt you just copy and paste it would of been much easier

man it's amazing the hooks and th euppercut when in close are very realistic very playable.

just the jab is a bit lazy....but to be honest when you got hooks and stuff liek that then it's sorted

oh the style changing idea was fucking amazing the movments are really good and you have done an amazing job and only afte i have played on a punch bag do i see what you were aiming for.

when you started to talk about it i wasnt sure it was going to work it seemed too much for an online game. i was thinking it would have to be bigger and when the graphics came out i wasnt truely buoght

but to be honest you have changed my mind completly thanx alot for this little bit of heaven

...light middle!!!!!! james toney was a natural 180 pounder it was hard enough for him to make super middlewieght

what about middlewieght?
both are the same hieght 5'9

my personall feeling is that if ray fought toney at middlewiehgt BUT was in his prime it would be a shut out. leonard was notoriously quick in hand and foot and rleied on his instincts and boxing basics.

james toney on the other hand is a counterpuncher pure counterpuncher with a right hand and left hook that will make you respect him. he can counter anythingthat leonard throws but leonard is to savy to get knocked out and is to active and has a far higher workrate than toney could ever produce.

a leonard win james wins some rounds by countering and making ray miss and get hit when ray tries to out muscle him but ray cant out muscle him and will revert to a joy jones style of staying outside throwing 4 hit combo's then out and move away

james is to lathargic to catch up

it's a shame though becuase james is a dman good fighter and can beat up many middle super middle light heavyies cruisers and even fully fledged heavywieghts

if you try to out muscle him like barkley jirov your going to get your arse kicked. ray i think has too many tools and talent to not get caught up in a fight but more in a boxing match which he will excel in.

kuyajosh wrote:xD

hahahaha
its funny how he won. but he cant even get in or out of the ring lol

0:37

haha

wow you got it huh

sven ottke by -1st round ko just when he gets up the stairs woops falls down and end of fight.

sterlihalla wrote:maybe theres jus something wrong with u larry

nah he's ripping the piZZ out of you....waht cna i say it's contagus

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yeah i will watch it. but for some reason it doesnt excite me as much. dont know why it just seems the first one who can land a punch wins in boxing it's never been that way.

i dont know i like the science behind it..if you want strieght up sluggin and bombing good for you..becuase yep boxing can get tedious.

even though ufc has had some stinkers before...michael bisping really made my stomch churn.