Floy Mayweathers Record !

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Look at it ! Disgusting, he is a bigger ducker than Calslappy and RJJ.
Biggest names are Zab Judah, Over the hill DLH, Riciky Hatton and Castillo.
IF u REALLY get down to it, the ONLY FREAKEN NAME on the list is HATTON..he is the only one with a name and hungry and prime time.
I wish he chokes on his dollar bills..

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000352&cat=boxer

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Ehh. No offense Mikkel but....

Another mayweather hater. Who has Hatton fought? Mayweather,Ksztu(or however u spell it) and paulie malinaggi.
Margarito-Cotto, Cintron, Mosley
Pacquaio-Barerra(lost 1) morales(lost 1) juan manuel(draw) OLD DLH
Mayweather faced everyone up the ranks to face except Margarito (good idea cuz he had plaster in his wraps) and Mosley who he may comeback and fight.

And you forgot he fought...
Baldomir(former champ)
Gatti(former champ)
Sharmba Mitchell(former champ)
Chop Chop Corley(former champ)
Castillo x2(champ)
Diego Corrales(rip)
emanuel augustus(former champ)
angel manfredy(former champ) Jesus Chaves(champ)

AND NEVER LOST.

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Mikkel wrote:Look at it ! Disgusting, he is a bigger ducker than Calslappy and RJJ.
Biggest names are Zab Judah, Over the hill DLH, Riciky Hatton and Castillo.
IF u REALLY get down to it, the ONLY FREAKEN NAME on the list is HATTON..he is the only one with a name and hungry and prime time.
I wish he chokes on his dollar bills..

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000352&cat=boxer

I couldn't agree more. I posted this earlier on my boxing forum. The debate was in regards to whom was greater De La Hoya or Mayweather.

My overall point was that Mayweather's resume isn't that impressive when you break it down. He has a lot of talent, but he's always been too scared to really seek the toughest fights out there. He did a lot of cherry picking in his career. He's by far, one of the most overrated fighters to come around in sometime. The credit some people give him is really undeserved.

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De La Hoya

Won titles from 130-160. That’s 6 weight classes. However, he was only a legit champion in 4 of those weight classes. Forget 130 and 160. I’m only counting weight classes where he scored legit victories against the elite of these divisions.

Best victories were against: Rafael Ruelas, Genaro Hernandez, Jesse James Leija, past prime Chavez twice, Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Pernell Whittaker, Ike Quartey, Javier Castillejo, Ricardo Mayorga. Additionally: Many people believe he should've gotten the nod against Mosley in their rematch and against Trinidad.

Mayweather Jr.

Won titles from 130-154. That’s 5 weight classes. However, he was only a legit champion in 3 of those weight classes. Forget 140. I’m only counting weight classes where he scored legit victories against the elite of these divisions.

Best victories were against: Diego Corrales, Genaro Hernandez, Jose Luis Castillo twice (many felt JLC won their first fight), past prime De La Hoya, Hatton (world class at 140) at 147.

Note: He wasn't dominate in either Castillo fight particularly their second encounter. He also defeated a past prime DLH by a hair and Hatton, who has never been worth much at 147.

Now let's take a look at fighters they didn't fight in their respective weight classes.

Can you think of anyone DLH didn't fight from 130-160? 130 was probably the only weight class where he didn't do shit, and at 160 (a weight he had no business at) , he at least fought the best fighter there, an all-time great in Hopkins.

At 130, PBF didn't fight Casamayor or Freitas.

At 135, he fought the best but should've been given a loss in his first fight against Castillo.

At 140, he didn't fight any of the elites.

At 147, he didn't fight any of the elites.

At 154, he fought a past prime, part-timer, and still only managed to win by a hair.

DLH > PBF

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Skillz wrote:Ehh. No offense Mikkel but....

Another mayweather hater. Who has Hatton fought? Mayweather,Ksztu(or however u spell it) and paulie malinaggi.
Margarito-Cotto, Cintron, Mosley
Pacquaio-Barerra(lost 1) morales(lost 1) juan manuel(draw) OLD DLH
Mayweather faced everyone up the ranks to face except Margarito (good idea cuz he had plaster in his wraps) and Mosley who he may comeback and fight.

And you forgot he fought...
Baldomir(former champ)
Gatti(former champ)
Sharmba Mitchell(former champ)
Chop Chop Corley(former champ)
Castillo x2(champ)
Diego Corrales(rip)
emanuel augustus(former champ)
angel manfredy(former champ) Jesus Chaves(champ)

AND NEVER LOST.

Don't put emphasis on the titles. There's 4 of them out there in each division, and many limited fighters capture them with careful management. This is why you have to focus on the overall ratings of respected boxing publications (print and online). Many times the best fighter out there isn't holding a title.

Baldomir(former champ) - You mean Bumdomir? Talk about a limited brawler.

Gatti(former champ) - You mean the washed up human punching bag?

Sharmba Mitchell(former champ) - You mean the washed up chinny runner?

Chop Chop Corley(former champ) - How about "Shot Shot" Corley because this guy never had a prime. That's how much of a bust he was.

Castillo x2(champ) - He lost the first fight in most people's eyes, and the 2nd was nothing to brag about. Talk about stinking out the show to avoid engaging one's opponent.

Diego Corrales(rip) - Wow. A quality win against a rising slugger.

emanuel augustus(former champ) - The ultimate journeyman.

angel manfredy(former champ) Jesus Chaves(champ) - Stop it. You're making me laugh.

In the grand scheme of themes, PBF has a carefully crafted record. Simply ask yourself if he fought the best guys in each division. Therein lies your answer as to how great he really was.

He only didn't fight about 3 ppl.

And about the castillo fight-A win is a win is a win.

Emanuel has given top fighters some of there best fights. Journeymen or not.
Angel Manfredy was a Great prospect, Jesus Chavez only has like 2 losses.

Dela Hoya has lost like 50% of his big fights.
Mosley x2
Trinidad
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Hopkins.
Do i need to go on?

Mayweather has fought the best otherwise he wouldnt have been champ.
Give him some credit, just cuz someone does good doesn't call for critism ALL THE TIME.
All i ever hear is Mayweather this Mayweather tht just cuz he retired undefeated and is cocky haha. get over it.

As big a fan I am of Mayweather....I agree with Obama/Sal...There is no reason Mayweather should have let Margarito steal thunder with his win vs Cotto...or let Mosley steal his thunder with his win over Margarito...You have guys like Mosley and Hopkins still fighting at their ages..Mayweather between 7-13 years their jr and is looking to retire without having been beat down

Hard to believe he's fighting for legacy

Mayweather is legit don't be disrespectful.

Also, saying RJJ is a ducker is nothing beyond. He held and defended every major belt at 175. RJJ didn't duck, but if he ever tried, all the guy would have to do is become a mandatory for 1 out of about 4 different sanctioning bodies.
Crazy thread..

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Mikkel wrote:Look at it ! Disgusting, he is a bigger ducker than Calslappy and RJJ.
Biggest names are Zab Judah, Over the hill DLH, Riciky Hatton and Castillo.
IF u REALLY get down to it, the ONLY FREAKEN NAME on the list is HATTON..he is the only one with a name and hungry and prime time.
I wish he chokes on his dollar bills..

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=000352&cat=boxer

LMAO, too bad that his last fight was against the Big Show.
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O mi god fuk Floyd Gayweather, hez tu arrogant and cocky. Bezides modern boxing is ded anawayz.

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Had he fought Cotto and Margarito there whouldnt be a problem. But like RJJ, he only took the fights he was 99% sure to win.
It's just a damn shame..

Mosley is a lot more accomplished fighter. He is willing to fight ANYONE. Never been knocked off his feet..a fighter that can beat the odds.
And just as important, his fights are action packed, he is willing to trade punches.
I can't remember seeing Floyd in a good fight. Havent seen all his fights but his latest so called "big fights" were total bores.

Mikkel wrote:Had he fought Cotto and Margarito there whouldnt be a problem. But like RJJ, he only took the fights he was 99% sure to win.
It's just a damn shame..

Are you dense? RJJ held 6 titles at 175 continuously, including all 4 major titles. You can't win every fucking belt by hand picking your opponents if anything his division was just shitty, and he still beat Virgil Hill, P4P James Toney, Hopkins and the (at the time) undefeated Montell Griffin. This is what happens when people go on boxrec and look at records instead of actually following boxing. Way to look ignorant. Margarito is a bitch ass cheater no one needed to fight him. And Cotto was all hype.

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Ive been following boxing since 85 or something..think i have every Ring magazine..
so I'm not impressed by alphabet titles in super this or junior that divisions.

If you follow boxing as you say you do you would understand to evaluate the value of the billion of titles out there.
RJJ fought so many tomato cans..it's a known fact. Same with Calslappy and Mayweather. Why waste all that time fighting bums when theres real opponents out there.
Sure RJJ division was weak but there was still legit challengers that he didnt want to face. And if u followed boxing u would know how shot that Virgil "Over the" Hill was when he faced RJJ.

I think Floyd is very skilled. Could of been an ATG. He never proved that tho, Mikkel is right.

He only fought people he knew he could beat. Never ever took a risk. Same with RJJ. Did anybody think Ricky could actually beat floyd? Zab Judah? He was never the same after the jelly legs Kostya gave him.

IMO he lost to Castillo in the first fight. He retired smartly as Margarito, Cotto and Clottey would all give him hard fights and maybe even beat him

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Skillz wrote:He only didn't fight about 3 ppl.

And about the castillo fight-A win is a win is a win.

Emanuel has given top fighters some of there best fights. Journeymen or not.
Angel Manfredy was a Great prospect, Jesus Chavez only has like 2 losses.

Dela Hoya has lost like 50% of his big fights.
Mosley x2
Trinidad
Mayweather
Pacquaio
Hopkins.
Do i need to go on?

Mayweather has fought the best otherwise he wouldnt have been champ.
Give him some credit, just cuz someone does good doesn't call for critism ALL THE TIME.
All i ever hear is Mayweather this Mayweather tht just cuz he retired undefeated and is cocky haha. get over it.

Guys like De La Hoya and Mosley lost fights because they actually fought the best each division had to offer. Floyd, on the other hand, carefully picked his battles and of course retired before he was forced to face his most difficult battles.

It's not about him being cocky and arrogant. It's simply about him never fighting the best at 140, 147, and 154, 3 divisons where he picked up paper straps.