Has Ricky Hatton pulled off a stroke of Genius?

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Ok so this guy is clearly a alt and he has probably masterminded the greatest padded superchamp status of all time.

He has made a alt at a time where there the following boxers were not active:

HTF
Larry
Fatny
Sal
Tyson
Unstop
Sugarray
Tiger
Vargas
Tyrant
Taylor

He then knocked out unknown fighters to get in the top 20 in all 4 divisions. He ducked any real credible challenges and only fought people he could beat. He won 3 titles by waiting for the easiest person to become champion then proceeded to beat them....he then goes offline. he fights a good opponent Viper (he knows he has a style to beat him with) and beat him to win the 4th title after completely nut hugging the other 3.

If you look at his record, apart from Viper he has beaten nobodies, he has mad an alt and beat people at the right place right time, my question to the OB community...is this the most genius padded record, not to mention padded superchamp status of all time?, discuss.

I guess he has

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Dark Destroyer wrote:Ok so this guy is clearly a alt and he has probably masterminded the greatest padded superchamp status of all time.

He has made a alt at a time where there the following boxers were not active:

HTF
Larry
Fatny
Sal
Tyson
Unstop
Sugarray
Tiger
Vargas
Tyrant
Taylor

He then knocked out unknown fighters to get in the top 20 in all 4 divisions. He ducked any real credible challenges and only fought people he could beat. He won 3 titles by waiting for the easiest person to become champion then proceeded to beat them....he then goes offline. he fights a good opponent Viper (he knows he has a style to beat him with) and beat him to win the 4th title after completely nut hugging the other 3.

If you look at his record, apart from Viper he has beaten nobodies, he has mad an alt and beat people at the right place right time, my question to the OB community...is this the most genius padded record, not to mention padded superchamp status of all time?, discuss.

I don't know bro. Looking through his record, he's fought and defended against most of the current top 10. You really can't fault someone for the fact that many very good fighters are retired. He's basically cleaned up what's currently here.

The nobodies he beat were guys whom I believe took two titles from Rocky and Vargas, two very good fighters in their own right. Sure they were alts but nonetheless he defeated them. I even heard a few people say that he was the one that retired Vargas and possibly even Rocky.

Let's take a look at his record.

Wins and title defenses over

Red Viper
Goldenboy
John
Captain America
Reaper
Boxa
Rocky
Trpche
Rush

I'm sure he won't earn your respect until he fights and defeats/loses to you several times, but until then it doesn't seem fair to say he padded his way to the top. I've watched some of his fights and it's not like he's not good.

I use to think it was Vargas but from the looks of it, he actually retired Vargas. Maybe it's Ashton? Greg Haugen?

Either way, he accomplished the task. I'll add him to the list.

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"The nobodies he beat were guys whom I believe took two titles from Rocky and Vargas, two very good fighters in their own right."

This is simply put not true. I am afraid you are talking about something you do not know about Salvador. Vargas never lost legit to anyone else but me. Yeah for sure some alt lag trick Koed him and then immediately logged off to avoid rm. Does not really count, does it?

I GAVE Vargas a title and left which was also the reason I gave him a title in the first place. Later on I came back. Vargas was getting frustrated both with people not giving him title shots (those alts) and new alts (same guy) using lag tricks to tko/ko him. I asked for my title back and Vargas GAVE it back to me. Then he wanted to box for real for his second title and we boxed and I won. He retired from OB for now but he will be back when he again has time for OB. Now the reason why he left is a combination of people not giving him title shots and not really having time for OB at the moment.

At some point I TKOed this alt guy hogging the titles taking one of his titles. He retired that alt and make new ones. I suppose I got lag trick KOed by one of his alts at one point, just like Vargas got and for sure the guy logged off immediately

It really was a nice trick and I fell for it in a position where he lost ever single round. It really did not matter that much anyway. See in the end I had to go again because of not having time to defend and play and I GAVE one of my titles to Boon as x-mas gift

So I left with a title and picked a guy to give it as a gift.

Also this Ricky Hatton has never given me a title shot. I asked for one and he declined despite me being rusty and playing on bad computer. I dont blame him since he has been making lot of alts for a good while and I had pleasure of TKOing those alts of his few times.

"I use to think it was Vargas but from the looks of it, he actually retired Vargas. Maybe it's Ashton? Greg Haugen? "

I used to think it is you and still think it is you my dear Salvador.

Tyrant wrote:Either way, he accomplished the task. I'll add him to the list.

Should you not first clear out his identity. He might already been on the HOF list and adding ALTs to HOF list is more than lame.

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Rocky Marciano wrote:"The nobodies he beat were guys whom I believe took two titles from Rocky and Vargas, two very good fighters in their own right."

This is simply put not true. I am afraid you are talking about something you do not know about Salvador. Vargas never lost legit to anyone else but me. Yeah for sure some alt lag trick Koed him and then immediately logged off to avoid rm. Does not really count, does it?

I GAVE Vargas a title and left which was also the reason I gave him a title in the first place. Later on I came back. Vargas was getting frustrated both with people not giving him title shots (those alts) and new alts (same guy) using lag tricks to tko/ko him. I asked for my title back and Vargas GAVE it back to me. Then he wanted to box for real for his second title and we boxed and I won. He retired from OB for now but he will be back when he again has time for OB. Now the reason why he left is a combination of people not giving him title shots and not really having time for OB at the moment.

At some point I TKOed this alt guy hogging the titles taking one of his titles. He retired that alt and make new ones. I suppose I got lag trick KOed by one of his alts at one point, just like Vargas got and for sure the guy logged off immediately It really was a nice trick and I fell for it in a position where he lost ever single round. It really did not matter that much anyway. See in the end I had to go again because of not having time to defend and play and I GAVE one of my titles to Boon as x-mas gift So I left with a title and picked a guy to give it as a gift.

Also this Ricky Hatton has never given me a title shot. I asked for one and he declined despite me being rusty and playing on bad computer. I dont blame him since he has been making lot of alts for a good while and I had pleasure of TKOing those alts of his few times.

"I use to think it was Vargas but from the looks of it, he actually retired Vargas. Maybe it's Ashton? Greg Haugen? "

I used to think it is you and still think it is you my dear Salvador.

Wasn't Unbeaten one of your alts? You have so many that one can never keep track. I saw Unbeaten fight before and he had the same ping and style as you so I think it's safe to say it was you. However, you will of course deny it.

Anyways, Lion King, Weed Grinder, and Manny Pacquiao took the titles from you and Vargas.

I remember reading the forum where he (Vargas) announced his retirement and Dirk pointed out that it was probably because he had just gotten schooled by Manny Pacquiao. I watched the fight and you could see the frustration in him.

I think it's funny how you always talk about being able to beat everyone, but yet you're always on alts so you can never prove your claims. The only alts you claim are the ones that do gets wins once in awhile, but not the ones that get owned.

I think you're story and theory is way off and you're also scared to fight on one ID because people will see that you aren't really as good as you claim to be. It's because in the end you won't be able to look at yourself in the mirror knowing that you can't consistently defeat the top 10 guys. So you'd rather beat someone like Viper on an alt and then claim you own him when in actuality he'd probably beat you 8-2 in a 10 fight series.

ok i have the right style to beat this ricky guy i had to lose twice to see who he really is and its all about not brawling on the inside.
I think its a vet to be honest but hes not that good so its a rusty vet maybe.

Rocky Marciano wrote:"The nobodies he beat were guys whom I believe took two titles from Rocky and Vargas, two very good fighters in their own right."

This is simply put not true. I am afraid you are talking about something you do not know about Salvador. Vargas never lost legit to anyone else but me. Yeah for sure some alt lag trick Koed him and then immediately logged off to avoid rm. Does not really count, does it?

I GAVE Vargas a title and left which was also the reason I gave him a title in the first place. Later on I came back. Vargas was getting frustrated both with people not giving him title shots (those alts) and new alts (same guy) using lag tricks to tko/ko him. I asked for my title back and Vargas GAVE it back to me. Then he wanted to box for real for his second title and we boxed and I won. He retired from OB for now but he will be back when he again has time for OB. Now the reason why he left is a combination of people not giving him title shots and not really having time for OB at the moment.

At some point I TKOed this alt guy hogging the titles taking one of his titles. He retired that alt and make new ones. I suppose I got lag trick KOed by one of his alts at one point, just like Vargas got and for sure the guy logged off immediately It really was a nice trick and I fell for it in a position where he lost ever single round. It really did not matter that much anyway. See in the end I had to go again because of not having time to defend and play and I GAVE one of my titles to Boon as x-mas gift So I left with a title and picked a guy to give it as a gift.

Also this Ricky Hatton has never given me a title shot. I asked for one and he declined despite me being rusty and playing on bad computer. I dont blame him since he has been making lot of alts for a good while and I had pleasure of TKOing those alts of his few times.

"I use to think it was Vargas but from the looks of it, he actually retired Vargas. Maybe it's Ashton? Greg Haugen? "

I used to think it is you and still think it is you my dear Salvador.

i beat vargas 3 times and i think hes ashton

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"Wasn't Unbeaten one of your alts?"

Quite funny I was just about to ask the same. I retired the guy by schooling him in a title match. He kept ducking me for weeks and finally got courage to accept my challenge. Unbeaten, Ricky Hatton etc. are all same guy in my honest opinion and again yes I do think it is you behind those alts. However, you will of course deny it.

"Anyways, Lion King, Weed Grinder, and Manny Pacquiao took the titles from you and Vargas."

Vargas got lagged to hell by some alt. I dont care enough to go check which one it was. I was there to see once the lag tricks. They boxed maybe once or twice. Big frigging whoopy doo. Couple of matches mean... shit. As a bonus it does not matter since all these alts popping up are by same person plus maybe his friend. Lion King ducked me. I never boxed him since he never accepted. Manny Pacquiao same story- ducked me. They are the same guy (and his friend or something) anyway. I beat his alts before he made those. There were quite few. Anyway I was not really even playing and only popping up once every now and then just to box all these new alts. Despite me being rusty as hell Weed managed to lose close to all rounds and then put on download (or something else) to lag it to hell. I suppose it was the same guy and he finally managed to squeeze out a win. Big frigging whoopi doo. I can do the same to let's say Fatny but that would not exactly count, would it? Hell I could even win a single match again Fatny legit (luck is a factor) but then again that also would mean... nothing.

"I remember reading the forum where he (Vargas) announced his retirement and Dirk pointed out that it was probably because he had just gotten schooled by Manny Pacquiao. I watched the fight and you could see the frustration in him."

LMAO. Get a clue Salvador and please stop trying to figure out why other people do things they do. You never get it right. Vargas does not have time for OB at the moment. Other than being busy with work and other more official things he was also going trough and maybe still is some troubling issues in his life. He'll get back when he can.

"I think it's funny how you always talk about being able to beat everyone.

I never talk about being able to beat everyone. That's you writing your typical BS. Period. I can hold my own and lose to some people time after time. Larry is a good example. Now since this is not the first time you come and write BS like this for you: I c-a-n n-o-t b-e-a-t e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e. Please try to get that and never ever claim such thing again. End of story.

By the way why do you even care so much if you are not even playing the game? It should not matter to you since it does not concern you. You seem to post awful lot... Now why dont you just fess up it's you behind all those alts.

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Rocky Marciano wrote:"Wasn't Unbeaten one of your alts?"

Quite funny I was just about to ask the same. I retired the guy by schooling him in a title match. He kept ducking me for weeks and finally got courage to accept my challenge. Unbeaten, Ricky Hatton etc. are all same guy in my honest opinion and again yes I do think it is you behind those alts. However, you will of course deny it.

"Anyways, Lion King, Weed Grinder, and Manny Pacquiao took the titles from you and Vargas."

Vargas got lagged to hell by some alt. I dont care enough to go check which one it was. I was there to see once the lag tricks. They boxed maybe once or twice. Big frigging whoopy doo. Couple of matches mean... shit. As a bonus it does not matter since all these alts popping up are by same person plus maybe his friend. Lion King ducked me. I never boxed him since he never accepted. Manny Pacquiao same story- ducked me. They are the same guy (and his friend or something) anyway. I was not really even playing and only popping up once every now and then. Despite me being rusty as hell Weed managed to lose close to all rounds and then put on download (or something else) to lag it to hell. I can do the same to let's say Fatny but that would not exactly count, would it?

"I remember reading the forum where he (Vargas) announced his retirement and Dirk pointed out that it was probably because he had just gotten schooled by Manny Pacquiao. I watched the fight and you could see the frustration in him."

LMAO. Get a clue Salvador and please stop trying to figure out why other people do things they do. You never get it right. Vargas does not have time for OB at the moment. Other than being busy with work and other more official things he was also going trough and maybe still is some troubling issues in his life. He'll get back when he can.

"I think it's funny how you always talk about being able to beat everyone.

I never talk about being able to beat everyone. That's you writing your typical BS. Period. I can hold my own and lose to some people time after time. Larry is a good example. Now since this is not the first time you come and write BS like this for you: I c-a-n n-o-t b-e-a-t e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e. Please try to get that and never ever claim such thing again. End of story.

By the way why do you even care so much if you are not even playing the game? It should not matter to you since it does not concern you. You seem to post awful lot... Now why dont you just fess up it's you behind all those alts.

I think a lot of your theories must stem from personal experience. Maybe Unbeaten was your friend or something. I really wouldn't doubt it.

And the lag excuse is as old as America. People tend to only lose when there's lag. They're so unbeatable that they can't lose unless lag affects them.

BTW, Weed beat you 3 times and he was up in every fight. Rewatch those fights.

I don't post that often, well at least not as much as you do. Funny how this seems to be of great concern to you. I guess you just want to clear up the fact that your alts don't lose unless lag kicks in. Yes Rocky, you are the modern day OB, Rocky Marciano, undefeated for eternity.

I basically chime in when I see stuff worth responding to.

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Your just too funny Salvador. You rant to Red Viper about this and that and how he should carry himself when you are exactly the same. Red Viper gets all angry when he feels he is not given credit he deserves and makes a posts all in red. You made a post and some people, including me, replied not agreeing giving reasons why they disagree with you. Ever since you have been posting a lot (well you were posting a LOT before that too) whining acting all hurt feeling you were not given credit you think you deserve. Seriously where is the difference? There is none.

Wait! I admit I am wrong. There is a difference! Red Viper makes his post all in red while you use plain black.

You are not in any position to talk to Red Viper the way you have been talking to him. Also Red Viper is entitle to make his post the way he does and it is none of your business.

By the way Weed was not up in all 3 fights. You are wrong again but that's hardly surprising. Facts have never been your strong point. You always fail to check facts and talk out of your ass not having a clue. This is not the first time

"I don't post that often,"

Oh please. Do I really have to (again) dig up the fact of you making close to half the post and threads in OB in just few months than I have made in about two years.

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LMAO! 239 posts in less than 5 months. Seriously Salvador just stop with the BS please. You talk a lot but always get shown wrong by facts. Why an earth wont you check what you are talking about before making these posts of yours...

ps. Why don't you just man up and admit it is you behind all those alts

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Barrack Obama wrote:I don't know bro. Looking through his record, he's fought and defended against most of the current top 10. You really can't fault someone for the fact that many very good fighters are retired. He's basically cleaned up what's currently here.

I can fault someone who clearly knows the game well. If someone like John became super champion, he would just be lucky he was in a era where all the greats were nowhere to be seen and would deserve his success, but this Hatton guy is more calculated. He was obviously around when all the big guns were, but seems to have made a new identity to probably achieve a better win/loss record which is why he probably ducks. Another possible reason for this alt creation is that he is probably seen as a right dick under his proper name so a change of character might rack up them votes. Just an observation, could be wrong, just seems extremely suspicious.

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Rocky Marciano wrote:Your just too funny Salvador. You rant to Red Viper about this and that and how he should carry himself when you are exactly the same. Red Viper gets all angry when he feels he is not given credit he deserves and makes a posts all in red. You made a post and some people, including me, replied not agreeing giving reasons why they disagree with you. Ever since you have been posting a lot (well you were posting a LOT before that too) whining acting all hurt feeling you were not given credit you think you deserve. Seriously where is the difference? There is none.

Wait! I admit I am wrong. There is a difference! Red Viper makes his post all in red while you use plain black.

You are not in any position to talk to Red Viper the way you have been talking to him. Also Red Viper is entitle to make his post the way he does and it is none of your business.

By the way Weed was not up in all 3 fights. You are wrong again but that's hardly surprising. Facts have never been your strong point. You always fail to check facts and talk out of your ass not having a clue. This is not the first time

"I don't post that often,"

Oh please. Do I really have to (again) dig up the fact of you making close to half the post and threads in OB in just few months than I have made in about two years.

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LMAO! 239 posts in less than 5 months. Seriously Salvador just stop with the BS please. You talk a lot but always get shown wrong by facts. Why an earth wont you check what you are talking about before making these posts of yours...

ps. Why don't you just man up and admit it is you behind all those alts

Once again, we get the same ole' BS from Rocky attempting to divert attention to someone else. It gets old Rocky.

I'm too happy in my real life to let any online stuff rile me up for real. That's yet another misperception on your part.

239 posts in 5 months isn't a lot considering that I've had a boxing discussion forum for close to 10 years where I've probably logged about 100,000 total posts.

Therefore, you get your facts straight.

BTW, Weed fought you 3 times. He KOd you in one round (he was up obviously), then in 12 (you were actually up on two cards), and then he KOd you in 5 (he was up on all cards). What's that saying? You're only as good as your last fight. Morever, he WON all three. Stop making excuses.