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30/10/2007 20:29:38
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mike watson
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im so incited
this is the biggest unification fight since tommy hearns and ray leonard at welterwieght almost 20 years ago.
your thoughts please
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30/10/2007 20:36:00
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Kessler KO10
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30/10/2007 20:44:54
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Calzaghe by UD
He might struggle and blame it on his good old hand.
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31/10/2007 12:32:28
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Oscar
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Calzaghe UD but I think it'l be quite close, Calzaghe for me just had so much advantage with his stamina, he's got one of the best work rates I've seen.
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31/10/2007 15:11:51
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sterlihalla
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wow mike thats a far big statement to make for this era.
A big fight indeed kessler might win by ko i feel that happening due to the age factor the younger you are the better in fights like these but at the same time joe has alot of expierance it can go either way.
My bets on kessler hes in his prime more then joe i reckon.
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02/11/2007 20:40:57
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mike watson
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sterlihalla wrote:wow mike thats a far big statement to make for this era.
A big fight indeed kessler might win by ko i feel that happening due to the age factor the younger you are the better in fights like these but at the same time joe has alot of expierance it can go either way.
My bets on kessler hes in his prime more then joe i reckon.
i know i feel kinda dirty saying that the kessler calzaghe fight is gonna be like hearns and leonard.
but actually can you think of a unification fight of 2 highclass fighters in the same division?
then that means i proved my point and thus means you know little about boxing
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02/11/2007 21:06:00
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sterlihalla
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LOL always trying to prove u know things tut i dont have to prove anything to you.
I can think of a few bigger then kessler and a old joe.
Enzo marc versus jean marc mormeck
Paul williams versus cotto
Junior witter versus gavin rees
Juan diaz versus joel casamoya
Man i could go on and on.
Maybe u realise why this will be joe's last fight at that wieght division because it lacks talent thats why its being hyped so much i mean the guy basically said it himself lol.
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02/11/2007 23:10:29
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mike watson
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sterlihalla wrote:LOL always trying to prove u know things tut i dont have to prove anything to you.
I can think of a few bigger then kessler and a old joe.
Enzo marc versus jean marc mormeck
Paul williams versus cotto
Junior witter versus gavin rees
Juan diaz versus joel casamoya
Man i could go on and on.
Maybe u realise why this will be joe's last fight at that wieght division because it lacks talent thats why its being hyped so much i mean the guy basically said it himself lol.
im goign to quote that so you cant edit it
now when i said it's the biggest unification fight since ray leonard vs tommy hearns........ i meantit's the biggest unification fight since the ray leonard vs tommy hearns fight...when did paul williams vs cotto happen or juan diaz vs joel casamyor i must of missed them was it good must of been really exciting did you watch them by any chance
also do you think gavin rees is a genuine world class fighter...he did give maybe the weakest title holder the fight of his life but to say that a unification with witter
your just writnign nems from boxrecs rating slist and saw oooh 2 british fighters who are world champions...hmmmm
also the super middlewieght divison is the 2nd highest concentration of world class fighter after welterwieght (which is almost impossible to topple the amoutn of world class fighters there are)
at super middlewieght you have
joe calzaghe
mikkel kessler
lucian BOOTAAAY
allen green
carl froch
anthony mundine(though i dont know if he is retiring or not)
ZUNIGA!!!!!!
roy jones
tito trinidad
fernando vargas
ricardo mayorga
edison PANTERA miranda
sakio bika
peter manfredo
jaidon codrington
inkin
theres alot more out there.
this is the richest this division has ever been.
in the avergae amoutn of fights at supermiddlewieght are a whopping 4.36 per year to a welter who fights as much as 2.74 per year
and what the fuck is this joe calzaghe thing saying that he is overhyped...if you know anything about calzaghe is that he has never been hyped for the whole length of his career. he hasnt had a multi million promoter behind him until now and in that he isnt getting a good share of it.
aww poor reaper his fingers are writing checks that his knowledge cant cash.
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03/11/2007 10:04:04
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sterlihalla
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Ive seen them fight theres not much talent in that division carl froch isnt world class and miranda is more of a middle wieght anyway.
sadio bika crap and tito is moving up to light heavy to fight roy jones.
manfredo is crap.
allen green was alrite but now hes gotten crap.
Joe calzaghe stated he might be retiring because of lack of talent in his division.
Vargras crap and so is maygora thats why they both have losses on there records.
Richest? lol no one even hears about this division anymore except for now.
You cant name 1 undefeated good super middle wieght except for joe and kessler because there is none except these two lack of talent in my book but i gues ur going of ur own opinion but il say mine.
Cant believe u included the almost 40 year old tito lol way past his prime trinidad lol u must of been desperate lookin for people and mundine who? lol.
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03/11/2007 21:31:51
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sterlihalla
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kessler and joe calzaghe best super middle wieghts there are and i was sayin the division has a lack of talent.
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03/11/2007 22:54:20
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Yet again people outside of the UK doubted Calzaghe and yet again he delivered.
He was losing that fight up until round 6 or 7, changed style 3 times before he finally took control of the fight, only Hopkins and Jones can change styles like that to win a fight
I hope now all the doubters finally realise he is special and quite possibly the best super middleweight of all time. In a way I hoped he was going to say he was retiring when interviewed after the fight, but he thinks he has 12 more months left in him and wants Hopkins at Light Heavy, should be interesting.
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03/11/2007 23:08:20
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sterlihalla
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i think thats to much wieght for joe to handle i jus dont see him at light heavy and being sucessful
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04/11/2007 07:27:12
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Oscar
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I think he'd still outbox Hopkins, but I'd like to see him retire soon while he's still performing at his highest level. Would be crap if he kept going and ended up like Tyson.
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04/11/2007 13:56:59
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sterlihalla
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i think joes to smart to end up like tyson lol i hope he has alot of sucess and keeps a clean loss record
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08/11/2007 20:02:39
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mike watson
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sterlihalla wrote:Ive seen them fight theres not much talent in that division carl froch isnt world class and miranda is more of a middle wieght anyway.
sadio bika crap and tito is moving up to light heavy to fight roy jones.
manfredo is crap.
allen green was alrite but now hes gotten crap.
Joe calzaghe stated he might be retiring because of lack of talent in his division.
Vargras crap and so is maygora thats why they both have losses on there records.
Richest? lol no one even hears about this division anymore except for now.
You cant name 1 undefeated good super middle wieght except for joe and kessler because there is none except these two lack of talent in my book but i gues ur going of ur own opinion but il say mine.
Cant believe u included the almost 40 year old tito lol way past his prime trinidad lol u must of been desperate lookin for people and mundine who? lol.
yeah i added tito, jones, mayorga and vargas becuase i know you would of heard of them...saldy you dont know enough boxing to not accept that the supermiddlewieght division is one of the strongest division.
joe calzaghe can either fight bute, miranda, foch or go up in wieght.
now the problem is that miranda was beaten at middlewieght and is now starting afresh and looking good at it.
froch is a scary muthafuka but hasnt fought enough nor has bute who are still young...calzaghe has flushed the divison he has nothing left to prove here.
THAT is why he wants to move up in wieght because a win over clinton woods would be a great achievment to be a two wieght world champion would add alot of kudos.
and wait whats this at the bottom of your post
they are crap becuase they have losses on there records!?!?!?!?!?! LOSSES MEAN NOTHING WINS ARE EVERYTHING
vargas and miranda are world class fighters.
and your trying to tell me that an unbeaten fighter is a good fighter?
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