Officially Retired

Professor wrote:lol. That was the funnies thing Ive read. Mikkell saying BB should be in HOF when Tyrant had a topic with 25+ signatures lobbying for him to be HOF and it was ignored(as far as I know) anyway. Nigel Benn is better.

Maybe BB is his nephew, son, or 3rd cousin twice removed??

When I started ob I remember black bear. I also know that he was accused of padding. Not sure if people remember dredrick but he posted tons of times where it seemed to be black bear was padding.

With that being said i'll say what I think without the issue of padding effecting it.

Blackbear is a good fighter but I do not belive he is on the level as the last few HOFers. Other HOFERS worked so hard to get to hof status.. They fought in some of the hardest eras defended several times to the very best and on top of that they did things no other fighters have ever done.

Weather it be huge streaks, Holding all titles etc they all have a mark.

BlackBear is good fighter. Great fighter I dont think so...

I am not trying to knock him but I dont see any reason why he should be in there.

If I had to vote as of right now it would be NO... But if he didnt retire came back and just down right dominated I probably would reconsider my vote.

BB really improved lately, HTF u cant compare him with the bb u used to fight. He is very close to HOF level if he is not already there..

Larry Holmes wrote:BB really improved lately, HTF u cant compare him with the bb u used to fight. He is very close to HOF level if he is not already there..

lol your gettin old larry rearly old

if i dont struggle with BB then does that mean im a hofer ? :O nope

bb not hof material yet.
Any1 can hug jab hug jab

sterlihalla wrote:lol your gettin old larry rearly old if i dont struggle with BB then does that mean im a hofer ? :O nope bb not hof material yet.
Any1 can hug jab hug jab

Even if your skill was better then HTF and Fatny's prime skill combined with a bit of nigel benn's and unstoppable's, i still don't think they would let you in the HOF.. >_> And it's only been 6 years, Larry can't be that old.. unless he started at 50.

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sterlihalla wrote:

Larry Holmes wrote:BB really improved lately, HTF u cant compare him with the bb u used to fight. He is very close to HOF level if he is not already there..

lol your gettin old larry rearly old if i dont struggle with BB then does that mean im a hofer ? :O nope bb not hof material yet.
Any1 can hug jab hug jab

First of all you not struggling with Black Bear is flat out lie. You not only struggle with him but most of the time he flat out schools you. Lately only fighters able to give him a match have been Fatny and Fernando Vargas and both these two gentlemen school you Reaper. However that is not the point here. The point is that everyone knows you KOed Black Bear twice after getting totally schooled and dominated by him for LONG time (about every time after he improved to his current level). The thing is that those two matches do not really count, do they? After all both of them were nothing but freeze ko's and multiple people were there to witness you freeze KOing Black Bear. I personally witnessed the second match where you freeze Koed Black Bear (who was having issues with his internet connection). I can also freeze KO ever single boxer on this game? Does that make me best ever and HOF material? I suppose not.

After having freeze KOed Black Bear you have been parading around thinking you exposed him and are now all of sudden on same level. Frankly said you are seriously delusional and/or full of BS as usual.

Anyway you dont struggle with Black Bear. You get totally OWNED by Black Bear and no my little mon*** you are no where near HOF level.

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OK now to more important things. Fatny said that he has trouble with boxing against Black Bear and his only viable option is to slug him. Frankly said Black Bear is the BEST boxer on OB2D by far. He has the best jab, best power straight, best.... well best straight punches be it to face or body. I have boxed with multiple members of HOF (HTF, Larry, Fatny etc. you name it.) and Black Bear is the best "boxer" (meaning best at using straigth punches). He has mastered one specific aspect of Ob2D and taken it to new level.

It is such a shame you have decided to retire Black Bear. You have reached whole never skill level in this game and you have managed to master one specific aspect of OB2D boxing, even outskilling Fatny is that one area. Just when you reach this new very high level of skills you decide to retire. Such a shame. It would have been nice to see you continue and become super champ.

I personally thing BB should be added to HOF. Well maybe it is bit so so as he should and could stay and dominate a bit. However having boxed with multiple other HOF's I know his skills are now HOF level. BTW. Sugarray should be added too provided that he once became superchamp.

There is one thing about OB2D I have noticed. It is like riding a bike. You never really forget how to play and lose your skills. As time goes on people just get better and better. This should be kept in mind when talkinga bout competition perhaps having been harder. People who have stayed and continued to play this game were not as good back then as they are now. What I am 100% sure is that Fatny is the best, most dominat and most skilled champion and player of this game ever. No offence meant towards anyone. I have seen people disagree only to come back and lose to Fatny. With Fatny having rejoined rankings and hunting for titles again I challenge anyone who disagrees with this to come back and stop Fatny from becoming super champ again.

"Weather it be huge streaks, Holding all titles etc they all have a mark."

Black Bears mark is to be best ever straight puncher at this game (at leats so far).

Yes blackbear's jab is as good or slightly better than mine, the last fights that I remember i started as usual, then after a few rounds had to stop jabbing and make it a clinchfest close range battle to have a good advantage.

And yeah looking at the records i'd have to say Reaper more than struggles with him.

Id like to fight him... I havnt been fighting regular in a long time.

I think i'd hold my own and probably beat him in my current stage. the key to ob is to fight and fight every one. there is more to it but I promise you when you fight and fight often you'll have superior timing.

Its true I havnt been in the game to judge him.... But from the last time I fought for a few days I didnt think he was great.

I'll come back for awhile just to see the OB scene and maybe BB will play for a few more weeks before retiring.

War HTF

Why dont you both unretire and box for a month to get your timing back and then fight it out over a cource of week or two.

I'll be happy to try to KO you myself HTF

...No. Rusty HTF will own you Rocky.

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Does not really matter. I am retiring too. It's not worth my time anymore.
I got things I should do instead of playing OB2D.

It was fun while it lasted.

Huge thanks to Fatny, Larry, Black Bear, Sugarray, Ray Jhonson, USA, Flash, Chrille, Oscar, Ye Man, Skillz, Tyrant, Chopper, Catfish and few others for fun times and great matches.